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Dr. Karen Kan interviews Dr. Deb Hirschhorn, Marriage and Family Therapist author of "The Healing Is Mutual: Marriage Empowerment Tools to Rebuild Trust and Respect—Together." They will be discussing the fact that when there has been pain in the marriage, BOTH people have to heal, both from the marital pain and from their childhood pain. Dr. Deb holds a Ph.D. in Marriage and Family Therapy from Nova Southeastern University (FL). She began researching marital pain 20 years ago. She has authored and co-authored dozens of articles that appeared in both academic and lay publications, and has appeared in the media. She is the founder of http://drdeb.com/, the popular website that provides comprehensive information on marriage and family issues. s