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In this week's episode of Crazy Faith Talk, pastors Erica, Sarah, and Steve take a look at a part of the Epiphany story that often goes overlooked, unspoken, or deliberately ignored: the role of the puppet king Herod who kills the infants of Bethlehem and tries to deceive the Magi who come, following a star, to find the Christ-child. Where is there good news in a story like this, and how do we deal with the parts of the biblical story that are terrifying and brutal like this? And if we are afraid of engaging with a story like this (or just find convenient excuses for not ever dealing with it together), how will we ever find the courage to speak to a world still haunted by the memories of Auschwitz, the staggering death tolls of other countless genocides, or of wars against innocents unfolding in the world yet today? These are the difficult questions we will have to deal with if we are going to listen to the way Matthew's Gospel tells us of the birth of Christ. Join us for a powerful conversation and a compelling story to look at here on this week's Crazy Faith Talk.