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The old line attributed to Dr. King says that "the most segregated hour in America is still Sunday mornings at eleven o' clock." So even though we might like to wish that "racism isn't my problem" or "racism was solved a long time ago" or "racism doesn't have to do with me, because everyone around me looks the same as I do," we--especially we who claim to be followers of Jesus--can't ignore the ongoing ways that injustice is done along racial lines. So in their ongoing series looking at practicing justice, pastors Erica, Sarah, and Steve (all of whom belong to church denominations that are overwhelmingly white, in contexts that are overwhelmingly white, too) attempt an honest conversation that includes a brief history of the concept of race (and why it matters that it's an invention), a look at American church history and racial prejudice, challenges in our own settings, and recommendations of resources to continue the conversation. This conversation was recorded before the case of the murder of Ahmaud Arbery became widely publicized in the news, but in light of that event, this conversation seems all the more important to have... and all the more obvious that it is only the very tip of an iceberg many of us don't want to acknowledge is even there.